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Happy's avatar

I totally understand your frustration with this rude and arrogant bochur. He had no right to talk the way he did, and your reaction is perfectly understandable and justified.

I do believe the conclusion that our (chareidi) side has no sources is unwarranted. I have seen many sources for both sides (and obviously think a reasonable reading supports our side). However, my experience has been that the issue is too raw and emotional to have a reasonable, sourced-based discussion, with both sides being interested in hearing what the other side has to say. I have yet to see evidence that the people who demand sources are actually open to having a Torah-based discussion when we attempt. We will probably need to wait until after the war, may it end soon.

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David Harold Chester's avatar

What vile infection has got into the minds of our yeshivah leaders these days? When Rabbi Akiva was head of his yeshivah and a terrible plague broke out (which some claim to be a war against non-believers), the students fought and overcame this scurge after past days of encountering bad losses, and on Tu-Bishvat, the reversal of this rate of loss is celebrated every year at Merom. Yet even with this celebration 45 of our orthodox celebrants suffered loss of life (about 3 years ago) through their ignorance of how to behave. Today none of the Yeshivah leaders wishes to learn from and follow Akiva in this historic good example of where the emphasis should be justly placed in fighting evil? Even these days the apparent enthusiasm for celebrating our faith has been overcome with lack of due consideration for our fellows. Should we all become yeshiva students so that the IDF would have nobody serving in it and we could all then rely on Heavenly grace for survival? The holocaust should surely be sufficient reminder that it takes more than good belief and prayer for survival.

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